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metatron’s opening is gorgeous he doesn’t deserve it


So, faintly but maybe not so much crack theory time.

This season has had a fairly strong emphasis on portraying Cas as a Christ-like figure, imagery that was further reinforced by 9.18 - The Cedar Motel (Jesus being said to have been crucified on a cross of Cedar, as well as cedar being…

Oh my god this is such a beautiful idea!


Destiel Parallel: Booth/Brennan.

The next person to tell me that I read too much into the Dean/Cas scene is going to get a Season 8 box set thrown at their boobs.

What can you tell about Music&Destiel in 9x18 of spn?


Ok, so the only real music that is of note in 9.18 as far as Dean/Cas scenes go is the ending music - “The Sun Ain’t Gonna Shine Anymore” by the Walker Brothers. And man, is that a laden song or what. I’m sure by now there has been a lot written about it, but I’ll chuck my two cents in anyway.

The most important parts, to me, are the references to loneliness & the sun. The song starts by saying “Loneliness is a coat you wear”. Not too long after this we get the shot of Cas having removed his coat (though we don’t see the actual act, just him throwing it down on the bed). So we see Cas’ coat, the symbol of his angelic quest, being associated with loneliness. And it is the romantic type of loneliness. This song is about being without the one you love. And it doesn’t start until Cas is parted from Sam & Dean. Dean himself is very stony faced, much like he was at the end of 8.17 when Cas left him.

The chorus itself is also quite interesting in relation to the way things are heading. Everything from “The sun ain’t gonna shine anymore” through to “When you’re without love” to me imply that if Dean & Cas can’t work together, can’t BE together, then bad things are going to happen. That also ties in to my previous bit about Cas being Dean’s guiding light, and being specifically tied to the sun in this episode. By now we’re all pretty sure that it HAD to be Cas’ grace for the angel spell because it had to be the grace of an angel in love with a human, so that all ties together as well.

Even more interesting though is the way it calls back to the song Dean was listening to back in 9.14, the episode with Dean’s rearranged bedroom. That song was “Lonely Is The Night” by Billy Squier. So in the last two episodes to feature Cas we’ve had two songs revolving around loneliness, and one of them very much explicitly romantic in tone, and the other very romantic in setting.

Finally, and here’s where the tinhat comes out, there is this: the band Air Supply did a cover of “The Sun Ain’t Gonna Shine Anymore”. They also have a song called “Lonely is the Night” (though different from the Billy Squier song). They are also the band that Dean sung along to back in season 7, when he was busily falling down into his depression/alcoholism over Cas’ death (“I’m All Out of Love”, in case there’s someone that doesn’t remember). I have no idea if that is a coincidence or a very carefully planned thing on the part of S9, but it does make one wonder quite a lot. Specifically, since in 9.14 we only got enough of the lyrics to be able to identify the song, it does make me wonder if perhaps we’re supposed to be looking in another direction. It does just seem too much of a coincidence to have these links back to a band like Air Supply when it comes to Dean & Cas, especially since it is two of the last two episodes they’ve been in.

New anon so big chance Robbie might write 9x22 ( hope so) and what is the tittle's that Berens, Dabb & Carver who's writing what. Maybe if you can tell me what is the tittle's for 9x19-9x23 and who wrote what. Also what is your thoughts on Tessa and Hannah and what is there role. Do you think in your honest opinion that there wont be any kissing/sex with either women. Thank very much! :)


Yeah, I really hope it’s Robbie as well because I actually am all sorts of in love with him & his writing.  What we’ve got coming up is this:

9.19 “Alex Annie Alexis Ann” - Robert Berens

9.20 “Bloodlines” - Andrew Dabb

9.21 “King of the Damned” - Brad Buckner/Eugenie Ross-Leming

9.22 “Stairway to Heaven” - ??

9.23 “Do You Believe in Miracles” - Jeremy Carver

So just by titles alone the last three episodes look like we’re gonna be in for a hell of a ride.  As far as Tessa & Hannah? Everything I’m about to say is speculation & my own opinion & should, as with leaks/spoilers, be taken with a very large grain of salt because I’ll probably be way off.  That said, here goes.

For Tessa, since she’s in 9.22, and the fact that it is rumoured that Osric was also seen on set for that episode (again, I have no idea if it is true or not, it’s just what I heard), my thoughts are she is going to be playing a part in getting Heaven opened up, at least enough to get the souls out of the veil. She & Dean do have a connection, and I know a lot of people do ship them, but I’ve always felt a more maternal connection between them.  She’s probably going to be a little disappointed with some of the choices Dean has made (as is everyone around him), but I don’t feel that there is anything romantic being built there.  Even if something physical were to happen (whether that is sex or kissing), there is no way Dean would be able to feel any sort of emotional connection.  And there’s the whole “Tessa is now an angel” thing, which is weird, but if it is Robbie writing that ep, then at least we’ll get some explanation as to why a reaper is suddenly also an angel.  My pet theory is that she is going to be possessed by an Angel, possibly Gadreel, in order to open that door up.

Hannah? She’s a hard one, if only because we know nothing about her.  Again, I don’t see anything romantic there, not at this stage.  Cas is focussed on trying to help get the angels back to heaven.  I see her going one of two ways - one, she becomes a capable leader in her own right, and is the one Cas eventually hands the reins over to when he makes his decision to become human again.  I like this because SPN has so few badass women characters who aren’t just defined by their relationships to a properly developed male character.  The other is that she is a plant, put there by either Metatron or Gadreel (and Metatron is my bet, if this theory were to pan out) to make sure that Cas follows the script that Metatron is setting out.  I’m not as fond of this idea because it would just wind up with another slaughtered female, and ugh I’m over that.  So I’d really like to see her become a very strong second-in-command in Cas’ faction.  Either way, even if something were to happen romantically with Cas (which I see no evidence of thus far), it would likely be another romantic false lead, but since Cas has already had two of them this season, I’d be surprise.



I’m sorry…I can’t hear you over the FUCKING PERFECT PARALLEL STRUCTURE.

You know what really caught my attention?

“He had me kill 2 men this week.”

“I killed 2 angels this week.”

Destiel is already canon: or alternately, throw out your road maps and buckle up your seatbelts, we’re driving Baby in a Hermeneutic circle


I’ve seen a lot of meta that has focused on the minutia of the Carver era, as well as meta focusing on the three act structure (which incidentally I am 100% on board with) but I haven’t seen anything on the literal structure of the Carver era, how it’s meant to be engaged, and what that means for Destiel not in the future, but right now.

So, after searches and pleas and impatient waiting failed me, I decided to get off my lazy ass and write it myself.

I’ll say it up front, I’m not an academic, I’ve got a high school diploma, a cosmetology license, and a can do attitude. My understanding of postmodernism is almost completely self taught, and most of what I know relates to the visual arts. So expect a conversational tone, and a really weird approach.

Here we go!

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Why do you think that the chance of canon destiel will happen & when? How far will they show canon destiel ie touching, kissing, sex, dialogue? Do you think the actors will be comfortable with it? Will it be a good investment for spn/cw for canon destiel or bad. In ur honest opinion what are the pros/cons. Why are we seeing more destiel contents in the media, actors twitting bout it? And Robbie wit his Pro Cas tweets. I will be asking others too. TY


Oooohhh I love this stuff. OK THEN, LETS SEE.

Chances of canon Destiel? Very very good.  I wouldn’t say it’s guaranteed, because you never know, but everything seems to be implying that they are very, very likely to be going there, barring the network getting cold feet, things like that.  So I’d say there’s a good 70-80% chance of it happening, at least (though bear in mind that I am a LOT more optimistic than most, so I might be overestimating a lot).  As for how explicit? I don’t know. I imagine there will certainly be non-ambiguous dialogue.  There’s already a ton of very intimate touching between them (Dean cupping Cas’ face when he died, Cas holding Dean’s hand rather than his wrist when seeing the MoC in 9.18), so I presume that would continue.  Kissing? Again, depends on a bunch of things, including how far the network is willing to go.  I mean, it shouldn’t even be an issue, but that doesn’t mean it won’t be. I have confidence that we’ll get at least one kiss, but I’m still only 50/50 on that. Sex scene? Again, if it was in the same style as any other sex scene we’ve I would say that no way should it be an issue, but it likely will be, so I can’t see it happening.  That’s one I’d love to be proven wrong on though, because it would be actual true representation by having the exact same level of standards for all couples.

The actors? We’re all pretty sure Misha is comfortable with it, because he has said he’s got no problems at all, so he’s not really an issue.  Jensen likes to avoid talking about it, which some interpret to mean that he’s uncomfortable with the idea.  I don’t think he is, I just think he’s uncomfortable talking about it in front of fans because he’s incredibly non-confrontational.  He’s a bit of a dark horse, we really don’t know what he thinks.  But he is a very good actor, and more importantly a very professional actor, and my opinion is that no, he wouldn’t have any issues doing what the s/l called for, and he wouldn’t have any issues with that story line. His acting choices have been in line with eventual canon explicit Destiel, and also imo are also in line with an implicit romantic relationship right now, so I don’t think the actors are anything to worry about in that regard.

It would be a hugely good investment for the CW to make.  This is something that to my knowlege hasn’t been done on network television before, to have a canonically bisexual, macho lead who isn’t a walking stereotype and who isn’t defined by his sexuality.  Because that’s what people who are against this relationship tend to forget - this wouldn’t turn Supernatural into the Dean & Cas Show.  It would still be the same, Dean would still be Dean, it’d just be a new bit of information to incorporate into the whole.  That is it.  From a network perspective it would gain a whole new set of viewers & interest, at least some of whom would stick around after the buzz died down.  Most of the current viewers would stay if the TV Guide poll is anything to go by, and any that were lost would be more than countered by the new viewers.  And extra eyeballs = extra advertising revenue for them, so from their POV I don’t see any real downside.  It would be a positive story line, revolving around love, so it’s not like they’d have advertisers protesting on mass.  Especially given the CWs target audience, which tends towards supporting gay rights anyway.

And lastly, I’m of the opinion that the increase in Destiel/Cas-friendly stories in the media is part of a softening up campaign on the part of the network.  Casual viewers don’t notice quite as much as the more heavily invested fandom viewers, so by putting it out there it makes people take more notice, get emotionally invested, start rooting for them to get together & finally support it when it does become canon.  There have been a lot of casual viewers that are starting to notice it, mainly in S8, but even in S9 more and more people are starting to pick up on the decidedly romantic tint that those two have been given, so I’d say it’s working.

[EDIT] So my bestest S9 apologist bff jeremycarversweaterfetish has this to say about the potential for Destiel sex scenes under the Carver era:

"Throughout the Kripke and Gamble eras SPN sex scenes were what I’ll call network TV explicit. Shirtless dudes, writhing, etc. Carver comes in, and one of the many tone shifts he’s taken has been his approach to sex scenes. Namely that we haven’t seen them in action. Even in 9.03 it was a tasteful fade away. Sam and Amelia we saw the morning after with her in his shirt. Dean and Suzy we saw the before and after and Dean never even took off his shirt. NOW. You could go "Maybe the fellas just don’t want their shirts off." Except Cas had his shirt off. Dean had the shower scene. Implied nudity isn’t the issue. And we know it isn’t the network, sex is one of the CW’s main commodities. So, why the Carver sex scene tonal change? Because networks are only willing to go so far with m/m couples. So how do you make Destiel go from it’s current implicit canon to explicit canon without getting accused of gross double standards? You shift the tone of all your het sex scenes first."

THIS IS WHY I LOVE HER. And pretty much explains everything, and changes my opinion on a Destiel sex scene to YES, I think it is quite likely that we will get one.

This is my favorite kind of stuff to read on Tumblr.


You guys all remember how - just before they captured Gadreel - Sam called Cas, but it went to voicemail, right?

Then why was it

That when Sam found Cas’ phone later

The only missed calls he had

Were from Dean


I think the writers are trying to tell us something